Comments on: Civilization’s golden era is teetering on collapse http://vancouverpeakoil.org/2008/07/05/civilizations-golden-era-is-teetering-on-collapse/ VPOE is working with NGO’s, foundations, citizens' groups and the media to build awareness of the imminent peak oil crisis and its potential effects on the metro Vancouver area. They are currently in the planning stages of a Vancouver Peak Oil Task Force and a Vancouver Food Security conference to be held in Spring 2008. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:33:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Jerry http://vancouverpeakoil.org/2008/07/05/civilizations-golden-era-is-teetering-on-collapse/#comment-95 Jerry Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:42:41 +0000 http://vancouverpeakoil.org/2008/07/05/civilizations-golden-era-is-teetering-on-collapse/#comment-95 I think North America will be hit just as hard if not harder, because other areas of the planet have evolved into the state they are in now, with the social fabric they have. They can roll back to that, albeit with some pain. North America will fall to it's knees while the US points the finger and blames everyone else. Though the population will be watching Paris Hilton and walking their small dog on English Bay while listening to their iPod (or iSolaters as they are better know) will just be the irony of it all. North America has been rapidly grown in the petri dish of excess and waste into an example of urban sprawl and potential wasteland (suburbia). Agriculture is all mega farmed and oil based, there is little or no local community, framing, interdependence or social culture (as per most of Europe for example). One farmers market on Comox or Spuds on Granville island can sort that out. What was built in North America (though more so in the US) on the ideal of the individual, short sightedness and greed; opposed to community, a holistic approach and a social conscience, will decline and rapidly so. The irony that most people in the US think that "socialism" is a bad thing, though less that 1% can define it, is not lost of the rest of the world either. That I am extremely thankful for as it will force an acceptance or model of community and interconnectedness that North America is so desperately lacking, it's so sterile it hurts, and for that to end is no bad thing. Though in the mean time the US will use the only thing it has left to get what ever it wants (in the absence of any political creditability or good will left in the world towards it by it's own doing) and that is it's military, the peak oil wars, as we are seeing today. I wonder how long the draft will take ...... I think North America will be hit just as hard if not harder, because other areas of the planet have evolved into the state they are in now, with the social fabric they have. They can roll back to that, albeit with some pain. North America will fall to it’s knees while the US points the finger and blames everyone else. Though the population will be watching Paris Hilton and walking their small dog on English Bay while listening to their iPod (or iSolaters as they are better know) will just be the irony of it all.

North America has been rapidly grown in the petri dish of excess and waste into an example of urban sprawl and potential wasteland (suburbia). Agriculture is all mega farmed and oil based, there is little or no local community, framing, interdependence or social culture (as per most of Europe for example). One farmers market on Comox or Spuds on Granville island can sort that out.

What was built in North America (though more so in the US) on the ideal of the individual, short sightedness and greed; opposed to community, a holistic approach and a social conscience, will decline and rapidly so. The irony that most people in the US think that “socialism” is a bad thing, though less that 1% can define it, is not lost of the rest of the world either.

That I am extremely thankful for as it will force an acceptance or model of community and interconnectedness that North America is so desperately lacking, it’s so sterile it hurts, and for that to end is no bad thing.

Though in the mean time the US will use the only thing it has left to get what ever it wants (in the absence of any political creditability or good will left in the world towards it by it’s own doing) and that is it’s military, the peak oil wars, as we are seeing today.

I wonder how long the draft will take ……

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